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April 30, 2007 We visited the World Bird Sanctuary today after church. I was struck (again) by the regalness of the bald eagle. A guide was standing there, holding one on his arm, propped up with a stick. He just talked and answered any questions being posed at him by those standing and looking at the eagle. I am amazed at God’s creation, and every time I am reacquainted with something as amazing as the bald eagle, I am once again in awe of “The Creator!”
We love the number of letters (and articles) coming in, so don’t stop participating! Conversation makes us all stronger.
Re: “Kristyn Leigh”
Never allow people to talk down what God has made very clear to you. Be pleasing to God first, then acknowledge those who you are pleasing. God bless you, Kristyn.
Travis Carter, New York
Re: “The Oneness/Trinity Divide”
I must note a few things from this article. Firstly, the writer should understand that we Oneness folks didn’t start at Azusa. I am continually amazed that so many of our ranks continue to propagate that lie. We didn’t start at Azusa. Acts 2:38 salvation didn’t “return” at Azusa. Pick any of Dr Arnold’s works and you will see we have always been here from Pentecost all the way till now. We didn’t start at Azusa, we didn’t restart at Azusa, we don’t need to even associate with Azusa and Dr. Seymour’s anti-Oneness ideology.
Secondly, why should we want to tear down the walls between us and the Trinitarians? Let’s see, one is based on strict biblical monotheism inherited from the Jews. The other is an illegitimate child of Babylonian paganism, and pseudo-Christianity. Why exactly should we want to tear down walls that separate us from the false doctrine of Trinity? Seems mingling with false doctrines never worked out too well for Israel or the true church. Why would we even begin to waiver on the absolute most important of all doctrines: Oneness? I’m sorry but there is far more to lose by tearing down walls that separate us from them than there is to gain by walking hand in hand with Trinitarians.
Now perhaps the writer is pushing more of a social “work together” kind of relationship, one where doctrine isn’t compromised, but we work with the Trinitarians for humanitarian and social programs—aligning ourselves for the greater work of helping the poor, homeless, sick, and needy. In this case I agree. All of Christianity should in fact be in union over these issues. If a town has 20 churches of different denominations, why do they not all work together rather than attack things separately? Perhaps that is the writer’s meaning.
If not, and the truly wants us to “try to be understanding of the Trinity” or accept that we both have the same origin, then I am appalled. We have given up so much already as Apostolics. Now we have men in our ranks wanting us to forfeit the cornerstone of all truth? Sad, sad situation indeed!
John Persinger, Ohio
Re: “Where My Girls At?”
Thank you for vocalizing this important topic. As a young person (many years ago), I felt that I had no place because I could not sing or play the piano. I felt I didn’t have a ministry in the church. Young girls today need to know that they need to be open and willing to whatever ministry God leads them and they are not less of a Christian if they are not on the praise team.
My parents were raised in a church with a woman pastor. They learned how to love God and serve Him under her leadership.
Linda O’Donnell, Oregon
Re: “Oneness vs. Trinitarian Pentecostals: Healing the Great Divide”
Great article! It is interesting to reflect that those pioneers had to sort things out and not everything was as “cut and dried” as we sometimes tend to view those issues today.
Mark McClintock, Missouri
Re: “Tommy Tenney.”
This was a good article. You hit the nail on the head. The Oneness movement is its own worst enemy when it comes to unity with others of different beliefs. God help us.
Marlene Corbitt, Georgia
Re: “Oneness/Trinity Divide”
Wonderful article on Oneness/Trinity issues! I have seen the trick of the devil in fighting the issues of Trinity when most people could care less—they just need and want to know Jesus! Blessings to you Andrew for working to open the eyes of the blind—those that fuss about Trinity and never witness!
Re: “Where are the Girls?”
Here is one of them! I am a minister, a teacher. I have also seen the girls in my Sunday school think the only thing they can do for the church is clean it! Yikes! Hire a man janitor! I am one of the few minister leaders in my church as singles minister. I am not actually titled that—singles coordinator is the name—but minister is what I am!
Blessings to you and thanks! I am working with the young ones in my church. I have wanted to minister and teach more to those that will learn. God is making a way and opening the door. I am still looking for it though.
Brenda Norris, Arkansas
Re: “Oneness vs. Trinitarianism: Healing the Great Divide”
I sincerely agree with the writer of this article that Apostolics should have the spirit of Christ when speaking to those of the Trinitarian faiths. Most of the world has no idea of the biblical history behind what is today called the Trinity. When I came to the Lord at the age of 30, I was curious as to why most churches in the world believed in what was called the Trinity and we were so different in our belief. Until I was privileged to sit under the teaching of one of the finest historical teaching ministries in this nation, that of Reverend Jonathan Urshan (Bethel Church, St. Peters, Missouri) did I truly understand the difference and not just a difference, but the actual history of a teaching that went back to Genesis (called the Book of Beginnings) to a man named Nimrod.
There, the doctrine of a triune deity concept was initiated and began to fill the earth. The names synonymous with this triune concept are found within the scriptures; names like Tammuz, Ishtar, etc.; these have deep meanings and ties to what the entire Earth has embraced. Nimrod was the first anti-Christ figure, in fact a ‘hunter of souls.’ Through history as Catholicism (rising in Ephesians) began to conquer throughout the earth, their Creed, the Athanasian Creed was formulated (Council of Nicea), and became the belief and creed of what are now Trinitarian churches. When our forefathers came over as Pilgrims, they fled from the Church of England, they began to embrace differences in beliefs, but they maintained the creed and doctrine of the Church of England (Catholicism). It is even quoted at the beginning of some denominational services.
If one does not study deeply, especially within the history of religions, they will not understand or see why there is a difference. They will not understand why we who are Apostolic cannot embrace the Trinity. The root or foundation is always the place to begin in the study of the Word of God. It isn’t only our ‘belief’ or ‘difference’ that we are different. .According to ancient history, side by side with the holy scriptures, what we profess is historically and Biblically correct. The first church was formed in the book of Acts; that is still the church pattern for today.
Linda Schreckenberg, Missouri
Re: “Amazon?”
I just noticed the Amazon Ad isn’t up on either the .com or .net sites? Do we still get money from there if we use them?
Kimberly Rigney, Mississippi
(Editor’s Note: We still get a percentage of sales whenever you use the ad on our Home page. Everyone is welcome to use it!)
Re: “Looking for Gabby”
I met Gabby at the Iowa Ladies Conference in 2006. I pray God continues to bless you and your family and I hope that Dear Gabby comes back.
Judy Goodrich, Iowa
Re: “Does Your Mother Know You Talk That Way?”
I’m 47 years old and since my youth I’ve always used the words “suck” and “screw” in the way described in the article as being of more recent coinage. So, the statement that everyone over 35 believes “they’re just one half-step below unspeakable four-letter curse words” is cr*p. Uh-oh, there I go again using another 4-letter curse word.
It’s more valid to believe that the word “suck” comes from “suckle” which is to drink from your mama’s (breast). So, to say someone or something “sucks” is to imply that it is small and of no consequence and hence of little real worldly worth.
Just my 0.002-cents.
Ahmed Zahmed, Utah
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