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Wednesday, February 01, 2006

Kaitlin Johnson - A/P American Idol Finalist

Time to Do the Happy Dance!
We have an Apostolic American Idol finalist!!! Moments ago, Roomy and I watched pre-recorded Idol auditions. Roomy positively identified Kaitlin Johnson, daughter of Pastor Rex Johnson from Austin, Texas. At the concluding moments of the show, Kaitlin was shown exiting the audition room with the telltale yellow slip—she’s on her way to Hollywood! I’ve always heard preachers say A/P churches have the best talent; apparently Simon & co agree in this instance. Hollywood, get ready for a little Apostolic action!

As a point of correction, I was mistaken in the last post. There is one additional audition before the competition moves up a level and begins in Hollywood. Starting next Wednesday, Kaitlin and all others who made the first cut will begin grueling round 2. My spy network is on it! Stay tuned for more info!

posted by Lee Ann @ 8:28 PM  

37 Comments:

  • At 10:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I don't think that pentecostals should be supporting this. I am shocked that Rex Johnson would allow his daughter to be on the show. We are not supposed to be of the world to win it. I would be embarrased if that was my daughter.

     

  • At 11:08 AM, Blogger Stacy said…

    I am Sorry you feel that way .. BUT Just because she is on the show does not make her of this world.... God gave her the ability to sing not the world ... and Just look at it this way she is getting a chance to minister to people ... that probably know NOTHING about the lord ..and Dont ever Limit God ... How are we suppose to win souls if we dont allow ourselfs to get close to people in the world ? And She isnt your Daughter so dont worry about it! I think it is incredible.... I always say that God allows things to happen for a reason ... You never know ... We gonna have church up in Holly wood :) haha COngrats Girl Wish you the Best !~ Dont let people who jealious get you down .. Trust in the lord Follow you heart !

     

  • At 11:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    My Bible still says go into all the world...what a better way to let the world know about pentecost than to have one of our own on the most popular talent contest. Congrats Kaitlin, I for one am praying that you win!

     

  • At 2:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ministering to the world? By singing worldly songs? you must have never seen an episode of American Idol...they don't get to chose their song..the category is chosen for them..never before has it been christian or gospel. I'm curious as to how you justify this..I'm in agreeance with the previous commentor..this is not "a blessing".

     

  • At 6:40 PM, Blogger Jake Leonard said…

    so what? Consider this: maybe it might change the face of American Idol as we speak.....maybe, possibly, if it doesn't work out, at least the Apostolics/Pentecostals will at least got one person on the show. Maybe we don't need American Idol for our church to be on.....we have enough talent and more to have it thrown away by supercritical jerks like Simon Cowell, Paula Abdul, and that Jackson dude. Why do you think our musicians are so great? Because they never had to go on American Idol to do it.....they practiced with all of their hearts and prayed through. Maybe the idea of being on A.I. was not so good, though I'll be pulling for her. Hey, I'll even jump for joy if she wins!!!!

    Kaitlin, I wish you the very best. If things don't work out, I may have a spot for you for my Christian record label, RebJake Records, when I get it up and running. I am usually busy, because of me currently recruiting people for my band, Providence Based By Revelation. Other than me, 2 spots have been filled, but still more to go.

    Kaitlin, if you have any questions for me, shoot me an email at rebjakerecords@yahoo.com (Record label email) or bigshotnhs2005@yahoo.com (Home email)

     

  • At 10:25 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hello. I'm the first blogger on this comment. I appriciate the comments after mine, but they are dumb. She didn't go on that show to minister. She went on to be the American Idol and nothing else. American Idol isn't going to change for one pentecostal. They have had christians on there before and they laughed in thier face. God can move in many ways, but God does not move in things that would compromise our values. If she won she would have to wear, sing, and do what they said. There is no way she would be singing the glory of God. She would have to wear make up for one, and that should be enough. That is really enough for someone wanting to keep values to not participate.

     

  • At 9:18 PM, Blogger Liz said…

    well well - I have mixed feelings but I'm not going to let it all out like that!

    It all goes back to the integrity of the partaker.

    I'm blogging about this subject now. click if you dare.

     

  • At 9:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I cannot help but seem to be drawn to another similar instance... a story in the old testament... a story about a girl named Esther.
    Change it to "The king is seeking a queen" instead of "America is seeking an idol" and all of the arguements thus far seem to have been capable of having been argued back in Esther's day about her.

     

  • At 3:23 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Hogwash--Another K.curry diatribe--liberal non apostolic--no matter what you say--I am surprised that Rexy Dale allows this, and that Patty was there to give her blessing--for the sake of the ministry of Rexy Dale Say it aint so.

     

  • At 3:56 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Rexy Dale?!

     

  • At 6:25 PM, Anonymous Jane Torres said…

    I am posting for the first time ever!!!I am compelled. In season 1 of AI there was another apostolic young lady who made it through to Hollywood. Her name is Sylvia Chibiliti. She did not make it beyond the 32 semifinalists but alas she was there. She even argued with Simon regarding church music. I have noticed the show follows youth who are involved in a church (Clay, Reuben, and Fantasia)If all of life is worship and Kaitlin's steps are ordered; who are we to judge? Lets try something new. It's called support. Something that is especially helpful to youth! The contestants do not get to choose the AI show content but the recording contract that they win is totally up to them. All of these arguments about makeup, costuming, and music are a bit shallow...have you ever been to a church drama? I mean really, we just adore our own shows...I mean drama ministries. I can't believe that we are filled with the spirit when we find nothing better to do than dream smash and judge. No matter the outcome, Kaitlin is walking in Christ and her gifts will make room for themselves. I also need to ring in that K. Curry is doing a fine job. I don't even know what liberal means. Are we just suppossed to check our brains at the door? GO KAITLIN-SHINE!!!

     

  • At 9:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Ah, what a breath of fresh air to hear that there are some Apostolics that can separate the issue from the act performed.

    What is singing that is a part of the world? Is this not what angles do on a daily basis to worship God? What is the issue here? Singing in and of itself is not wrong and if that is true that what she did was not wrong because all she did was sing. Was she singing about something immoral? If not than what is the big deal. I mean if we can have normal everyday conversation and "talk" about everything under the sun what does it matter it we do it to a vocal rhythm?

    Whether or not she is using this as a "witnessing" tool is irrelevant to me. If she is a light than she won't be able to help but be a witness everywhere she goes in everything she does. Therefore, the first question should be, does she have a relationship with God? Next, does what she sings contradict the answer to the first question? Thirdly, if she has a relationship with God and what she is singing does not contradict that then why in the world it be wrong for her to be singing?

    Ok Ok... since the very act of singing must be ruled out then the real issue must be the medium through which she was singing... uh oh.. don't say it…. TV. God forbid there was a camera on her while she was using her gifts that God gave her. Now let’s continue the questioning by following the same line of reasoning from above. Does she have a relationship with God? Did she do anything immoral on TV that would have contradicted her relationship with God? So, if she has a relationship with God and nothing that she did contradicted that when she was on TV then what is the problem?

    Lastly, exactly what values did she compromise?


    The Neighborhood Philosopher

     

  • At 3:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    1st poster is back again. "Is this not what angles do on a daily basis to worship God?" Looks like the "Neighborhood Philosopher" didn't win the neighborhood spelling bee. It's angels not angles. ;) I think it's really funny what ya'll are saying about dumb stuff like clay, reuben, and fantasia. Asking things like "what values did she compromise". I think it sad that some churches are useing make up in thier dramas. I bet those same churchs think it's ok to got to movie theaters right? I'm sure that Katilyn is a great girl and i'm not questioning her walk with God at all. I'm attacking the idea that is ok to go on any tv show at all. From some of the posts here looks like there alot bigger issues that people need to deal with. Not knowing the difference between a liberal and a conservative is funny. Liberals are less strict in thier standards and beliefs. I'm a conservative, and i think you really need to be these days. What sad to me is that there are alot of people that think like you that didn't only 5 years ago. Her being on that show is not a good example for the youth today. The biggest problem with youth today is secular music. So it is NOT a good example to follow someone trying to be apart of that industry. I'm sure there will be posts after this, but really i've said enough. I will say one thing. I didn't write here to start controversy. I felt like someone should stand for truth round here. Nothing but love for ya'll.

     

  • At 9:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thanks for the spelling correction 1st poster, but anyone that can notice that should notice that in their own post when they spell the word "their" as "thier". And using as “using”;-) ( ...useing make up in thier churches...). Oh, and should I mention that when you use the word "I" you should remember to capitalize it. ;-)

    Also, doesn’t it seem like an inconsistency to say that you are not questioning her walk with God when it is the case that you believe that it is not ok to go onto tv at all? I mean she DID go onto tv. That is considered not ok, therefore that is not ok in ones “walk with God”. Hence, it is double talk. I am not buying it.

    Now, on to the content of your post since you are expecting it…

    Here are the assertions.

    1. It is not ok to go on tv at all.

    2. Because it will lead others to listen to secular music and secular music will cause them to go astray.

    3. Therefore it is not good

    Can I ask this? If I say look at that dog it sure does behave well. Would this not be considered a secular sentence? I mean, there is nothing particularly spiritual about this sentence. Now, what if I sang this instead of spoke it? Ah, now I have a secular song and now it becomes bad, right? See the problem with the reasoning? I am sure you will not see a problem with it, hopefully others will though. I suppose you will probably point out another grammatical error while making some to avoid addressing my post specifically.

    Is it really secular music that causes young people to stop living an overcoming life? Did we finally find the great CAUSE of it all!!! :)

    The issue with young people is not secular music at all. It is much deeper than that. The issue has to do with being real and knowing oneself. There is nothing that can “MAKE” us do anything. The primary cause of all our actions is our will. It is ontologically FREE. Our will can be influenced but not controlled. That is an important distinction. The sad thing with those that lead the youth is that a lot of time they simply tell young people what rules to follow if they want to serve God instead of teaching them how to live in an understanding of what influences their will to act one way or another when it comes to making decisions. This is how you come to “know yourself”.

    When you can learn the influences in your life then and only then can you begin to start creating positive habits to overcome them. It is not the same for everyone. Some people can listen to secular music and be a GREAT soul winner for God and other people can listen to secular music and be totally influenced by it and allow every idea to control them. Taking away that option does not solve the problem if they do not have control over their own will. They will simply replace the secular ideas with whatever anyone that is persuasive has to say. Cults want robots not people that think on their own. You see, the issue does not begin with the object (music), but with the will and its influences. We should teach young people HOW TO THINK instead of WHAT TO THINK that way they OWN their decisions from an understanding of the means through which they have made those decisions instead of living off of arbitrary rules of others. The power of the Spirit in us allows us to have power over our human and fallen nature. Instead of allowing the human condition to walk all over us we are able to live victoriously in the Spirit by the renewing of OUR MIND and truly be over comers. Then we can eat with sinners without becoming sinners, you know then we can truly be like Jesus. :)

    The Neighborhood Philosopher

     

  • At 5:18 AM, Blogger n said…

    I only have one question: What are you doing watching television? I was under the impression that it was prohibited, as related to us by our organizations. Apparently, something has changed, we have changed. Things we didn't do in years past, we are now doing, like watching television. So, in that light, perhaps we should not be casting stones at this kid because she 'made it to Hollywood'. Like Jesus said in Matthew 7:1-5, "Judge not that you be not judged for...with what you measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you...why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in THINE OWN eye? Thou HYPOCRITE, first cast the beam out of thine own eye..." According to Jesus, your life must be without sin in order to cast stones. Instead of bashing this poor kid and her parents for whatever reason, your duty as their sister or brother in Christ is to pray for them. I suppose it is much easier to use these sites to be pharsaic and self-indulgent. But heed the words of Isaiah who said, "But we are ALL unclean things, and all of our righteousnesses are as filthy rags..."

     

  • At 6:39 AM, Anonymous Monkeyman said…

    Hello from Canada! www.firstchurch.ca / www.youthxplosion.ca / www.youthzone.ca / www.joyfm.ca
    As a pentecostal music director and Christian radio personality I would like to join the fray.

    Unless YOU walk in the shoes of somebody, please, please do NOT ever criticize anyone, especially a fellow believer. Now if they don't mess with doctrine or lead others away from Christ then please leave them alone.
    I was SO PROUD when I saw a young girl who looked pretty recognizable as an Apostolic, make it through to the next round. To criticize Pastor Johnson is pretty bold, he has done so much for young people through his ministry and back in the day when he was the National Youth Director, he always came through for us!
    I had the opportunity to interview George Huff last year and after AI, he could have chosen any record label, yet he chose to go for less money and sign with Word Records and he IS getting the message of Christ out there. He has done more for the Kingdom of God than a lot of us discussing this issue.
    Do you sing Amazing Grace in your church? this is an old Irish Pub song that was re-done with Christian lyrics--BY A SLAVE TRADER! When you realize there is NO such thing as Christian music, only Christian lyrics you will be more gentle in your dealing with musical issues. I deal every day with those who would like to keep Christ in a box and tell me what is Godly and what isn't. God CAN and WILL use anybody who is willing...I'm proof that HE will even use knuckleheads! Since my Pastor allowed us to kick it up in our music, we have been able to minister in every type of church denomination and civic setting...to the point where the Holy Ghost fell in a conservative Baptist Church.
    Pastor Johnson and his daughter are following what they feel is the direction for their family and we should be there to encourage not tear down!
    My hope is some day, if she can make it through, I can interview her and play some of her music.
    Your "age old" arguements remind me of my youth when I heard that Christian youth should only go to Bible school to seperate themselves from the world...I'm glad my older brother didn't listen and now am proud of him being a Professor at Arizona State and he is a Yale alumnus too! I really am not trying to criticize you, just encouraging you to take a more gentle stance and allow God to use you to the best of your abilities too!
    Peace,
    Jonathan Ramirez
    Music Director
    1st Church
    Fredericton, NB Canada

    Production Manager/Morning Drive
    Joy FM Network

     

  • At 11:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Just wanted to clarify a few things, it's Rexie Dale and Patti not Rexy and Patty! Thanks to all of those standing up for Kaitlin, believe me i'm sure its being greatly appreciated by her and her family! I'm sure they don't really care if people think bad anyway, it was their decision in the first place! Pentecostals are by far the most judgemental people I have ever met! I am one and I love all of them but we really are so judgemental its not even funny!

     

  • At 8:41 AM, Anonymous Monkeyman said…

    Pentecostals judgemental? It's not just us pentecostals, it's people in general. Like I stated before, working in Christian radio I have a lot of contacts in every denomination and judgement is EVERYWHERE...we just need to balance it with the love of Christ and hopefully in some small way make a difference in our communities that God has called us to. I know that when I get to Heaven there will be people there that I will be surprised to see and I KNOW they will be surprised to see me too! haha

     

  • At 8:49 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    As an Apostolic woman who is a TV media professional I am heart sick at the way we as a group talk about this kind of thing and treat our young people when they step out like this. Isn't it about time that we have Apostolic young people in the spotlight? Are we so insecure in how we have been raised and how we have raised our childern that we have to shelter them from this kind of thing. I for one would like to trust that Rev. Rex Johnson and his wife have raised this young lady to know who she is - to know who her God is and to trust him. The world can only influence us when we do know what we believe and are willing to compromise it for fame, money or anything the world has to offer.

    I can work in Televison - I have even spent time in trinity christian TV and have not changed who I am or what I believe because I KNOW what I believe and who I live for and nothing and no one will ever change that. Why? because my parents provided me with a solid Apostolic home, an Apostolic church and the best Apostolic example and foundation. So, that now I have my own personal relationship and love for God that will not be shaken.

    You see this world is not a pretty place - people are desperate and hurting, people are looking for a way out. WE Have IT!!! The reason so many people look to Hollywood and music idols is to find someone who has it all together and can provide them with some hope and maybe an answer - who better to do that than a spirit filled Apostolic???

    We have got to stop hiding what we have and being afraid that the world will effect us and start effecting our world.

    Let them see Kaitlin and even better yet - let them see Kaitlin's God! Let's start being the idol's the world looks to for answers - maybe then our lifestyle and our God will be the one they look to rather than drugs, greed, homosexulity, kabbalah and all that other wierd junk that celebritys push off as normal and life changing.

     

  • At 4:45 PM, Blogger Amy D said…

    I'm UPC to the core, and my TV is set tonight on American Idol and when it comes time to...I'm voting for her all the way!!

     

  • At 12:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    1st anonmous..haha! The meek shall inheiret the earth right? It's not us that should be in the spotlight but Jesus!! Can i get an amen? Mixing with trinitarians and staying glued to the idiot box is not Upc to the core. Sorry if i miss spelled inheiret. haha! What's is the fact that people will fight tooth and nail to keep thier tv and secular music. That my friends is sad. God dosn't need help from TV or american idol to spread his word. To think other wise is dumb.

     

  • At 5:29 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    If Kaitlin wants to use her God-given gift as a recording artist,(and I see from the comments that she didn't get to be heard by the tv audience anyway), let her seek out producers who will let her do a Christian album.
    I agree, she would've had to dance, make her face up, wear more revealing clothing to get any farther than she did. I noticed photos of her elsewhere and her curly hair was made straight-it looked nice. Can't say if cut, her dress style more youthful,(she retained her dresses/skirts), and it looked like she had make-up on in the room where she waited to get the final result.
    I think God would rather her retain her standards and do a Christian album instead of giving into some things to be accepted of the world so that she can use her gift and more folks hear her.

     

  • At 12:08 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    really none of us know how this will play out. Time will only tell. If she does make it to the finals it will show wheater she is going to stand her ground for what she believes, and this will be very hard to do. And if she is doing this for God and reaching lost souls i am sure we all can agree that she needs to be very careful. Being around those types of people and Hollywood all the time can be a bad influence. And the whole "Idol" thing can get in the way of a true minsitry even if it not meaning to. Motives are the bigger issue and we will not know what they are until we see a little more. If she does win there is even more of an issue and it will be very hard to follow what you believe even if she can do a Christian albumn. Even Christian record labels are a buisness and they will wnt her to do what they want. You dont get much of a say.

     

  • At 10:01 PM, Blogger Mrs Tiffany Kennedy said…

    Ya'll have a little more respect...It should never be Rexie Dale...you are to address your pastor and fellow pastors with respect...And first names are not respectful when it comes to a pastor no matter who you are..It should always be Pastor Johnson or Rev Johnson..Guess my pastor taught me a little different.

     

  • At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Laura Eygabroad-Aranda said…

    Has anyone thought to ask HER what she is doing on American Idol instead of bashing her and tearing her down! I dont have a tv in my home but I am not going to start nasty stories about HER who dared to look 'different' and get on tv and do her thing!
    I go to a UPC church but I am disgusted to say that UPC and its youth always need something to talk about. Always! Get over it and by the way....you without sin..throw the first stone!

     

  • At 9:54 AM, Anonymous Laura Eygabroad-Aranda said…

    Has anyone thought to ask HER what she is doing on American Idol instead of bashing her and tearing her down! I dont have a tv in my home but I am not going to start nasty stories about HER who dared to look 'different' and get on tv and do her thing!
    I go to a UPC church but I am disgusted to say that UPC and its youth always need something to talk about. Always! Get over it and by the way....you without sin..throw the first stone!

     

  • At 9:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    To the "conservative" poster... I was raised in a Southern Baptist church, but received the Holy Ghost my junior year in college. That was 11 years ago...

    I now teach the College & Career Sunday School class at my local UPC... Call me a "liberal"... whatever --- but here's my two cents. I say with confidence that you were "raised in church" and have no concept of current youth culture. You've probably never considered yourself to have "lived in sin. That being said...

    It troubles me when you identify a UPC rule/standard as the identification of your experience with God. Somehow, most lifelong apostolics see standards, not the infilling of the Holy Ghost or baptism, as their pentecostal experience. I, and most people who did not grow up in the church, see standards as growth within that experience, but not the identity of it. They aren't a super-secret handshake that get you into God's secret treehouse.

    A person shouldn't be on TV? That sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black. TV is tame compared to the internet, yet you have chosen to spend time in front of the computer screen.

    Condemning a church because they allow/encourage their saints to wear makeup in dramas? Pious. You mean to tell me that Bro. Anthony Mangun and the Pentecostals of Alexandria (LA) are not in the will of God or somehow they are compromising their beliefs? Come on.

    That this young lady shouldn't sing secular music... Do you work a secular job or do you derive all of your income from working within the church? Music is her livelihood. Why hold her to a higher standard than you yourself are willing to commit to?

    There... I'm through with my rant. Call me angry, rebellious, whatever... It simply crawls under my skin when that "holier than thou, we've been doing it this way for 50 years, it's us 4 and no more" mentality starts spewing its venom on our young people. If you don't agree with what she's doing, pray for her... you'll accomplish nothing by bashing her.

     

  • At 9:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Amen to the above poster!!!! Is it any wonder that poeple still laugh and make fun of us? Is it any wonder they think they don't want what we have? We attack our own from within and many of these posts are proof of it!!

    Many of you have never met this young lady and yet you feel justified in judging her?? God knows her heart and he is her judge. Her earthly authority her father and her pastor who are the spiritual protector of her soul allowed her to do this and who are we to question that?

    I am so sick of people who call themselves christians judging others by the outward appearance when they themselves are rotten on the inside. Sorry if this seems harsh, but I think it's the bible that says - "Out of the abundance of the heart . . . the mouth speaks". When you get on these boards and say the judgmental things that are being said - maybe you need to take a moment and look inwardly and not be so proud of how you have held the outward.

    As I said before I have worked in secular and charismatic TV and I can tell you first had that there are people that do not look like us that know how to pray and touch God and they know how to love other people and be Christians. They are having an impact. How much more of an impact could we have - we have truth! We need to cherish our heritage and take our message of love and salvation to a hurting world and stop all of the hateful tearing at each other. Instead of judging her - try praying for and loving lost people - you might see the change the world needs!

     

  • At 9:18 AM, Anonymous Kaye said…

    Let's go back to the Word. Paul says, (1 Cor 10:23)"All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient : all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not." What we have to look at is whether the things we do edify ourselves. I need to be edified in many ways to be able to portray a great witness for Christ. Those things that are permissable to me and the things that are permissable for you may very well be very different. Likewise, the things that edify are different. Many would say that playing golf isn't wrong, but if you spend so much money and go play golf instead of other things you should be doing, then it is wrong. Stupid example maybe, but for each person the weakness, the edifying, the witness is different. Working isn't a sin either, it is a necessity and a requirement. However, it can become a sin when you sacrifice family, sacrifice church, strive to be the best and cease to be a godly witness, then that too becomes wrong. The pharasees lived the law to the letter, but Jesus Christ called them a bunch of vipers. Why? Because they were living it outwardly but had a slavery mentality. Quit burning this lady at the stake. There are so many more things we should be doing than worrying about her compromises or her parent's support. We must all be about the Father's business, whatever that takes for each of us. If your eye offendeth thee, pluck it out, but quit plucking out other people's eyes because your own presence on the AI stage would have caused you to compromise your beliefs and values. Get real. If that is all it takes for us to release our godly heritage, then we don't have much to start with. We need to be teaching our children how to practice self control, how to listen to the Spirit's guidance, and we won't be afraid if they will compromise anything when the times comes, because they know how to build the walls themselves.

     

  • At 2:02 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    This blog is cracking me up! Everything is focused on her singing secular music. Do you know how many UPC weddings that I have gone to where they either play secular songs or have them sung by someone!!! I say we lay off this secular thing and give her encouragement for having accomplished what she did as a christian. Who knows maybe just one of the people she shared her faith with will come to God and be baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Ghost. I would think that would rank high in God's eyes. A soul saved and the angels in heaven have a party - imagine that!!! Let's not be judging our own in the UPC faith. God is the JUDGE and we are to individually do our absolute best to serve him and win souls for HIS kingdom. That is our purpose on Earth. God Bless!

     

  • At 7:54 PM, Anonymous Devil-vision said…

    Gimme a break.. I thought TV was a sin UPC members? I thought Hollywood was the evil and vile city of today! Before I saw the UPC doctrine for what it was and how hypocritical it's members were. I sat on a church bench daily listening to the preachers rail about the evils of TV and Hollywood.
    Yet a pastors daughter signs up for idol and she has wide range UPC support. As a pastors daughter I must first ask. Where has she watched American IDOL? Partaking in the sinful Hellivison!
    Secondly, I must laugh at all the "saints" that are excited and thrilled that "she made it all the way to Hollywood".
    This hypocrasy is sooooo very UPC it's laughable!! If there are "dollar signs" attached to anything UPC members will always comprimise what they preach and profess to believe..

     

  • At 7:11 PM, Blogger igolf4dafunofit said…

    Pardon me for saying so, Devil-vision, but you sound pretty bitter. Perhaps, instead of stereotyping & labeling the Church as being full of hypocrites, you could try praying your problem through first. Otherwise, when you allow a hypocrite to get in between you & God (His man or His Church), they're closer to God than you are. Just a thought!

     

  • At 7:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I have only lived 31 years, but I do not know, nor have I ever seen a perfect person. We have all made mistakes, and we will continue to make mistakes. We are all "imperfect". So to hear the angry people on here pointing their "imperfect" fingers at other "imperfect" people puzzles me. Let go of your anger. Think of all the things God has forgiven you of, and then try to get back on here and judge........it's gonna be alot harder to do when looking at your own life the way God sees it. He sees the stuff nobody else knows. And He keeps good records. Besides, it feels so much better to love, help, pray for, and enjoy each other. Compassion and understanding are beautiful words. And when practiced, make beautiful people. As the saying goes " try it, you'll like it! ". Lets all get to Heaven, ok? We need each other. .........Love and Prayers from a fellow "imperfect" Child of God

     

  • At 6:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    With the exception of a few, I'm absolutely nauseated by the hypocritical nature of the “CHRISTIANS” on this site.


    Consider this, back away from the computer "monitor" long enough to begin feeding the poor, housing the homeless, becoming advocates for abused children, and actually affecting “the world” in a positive way. Trust me, WE, the world, are totally elated to be separated from the so-called Christians on this site. Of course I'm only referring to the guilty ones. We try and live godly lives without living as pharisees, and your practices (i.e. judgmental spirits and “GODLY” works) absolutely prohibit us from doing that (if we're influenced by you, that is). I can honestly tell you that this type of behavior is a complete and utter reproach for the name of the organization you stand for. So, then, how much more so are you reproaching the name of Jesus?

    It appears more and more that “the world” has taken the role of the church and the so-called Christians have become the equivalent of the world that they work so hard to separate from. When I read some of these posts, I see self-righteousness, hypocritical, belittling spirits. Wow! These are the disciples that have been assigned to revive our diseased world? Where's the love? Where's the long-suffering? Where's the Christ-like attitudes?

    If one person desires to further their career by singing *GASP* secular music, SO WHAT? Stop trying to dictate every aspect of people's lives. Ever read the scripture about seeking out your own salvation? Stop being PHARISEES and putting emphasis solely on what things LOOK LIKE! This, itself, has absolutely diseased the apostolic churches to the point of crippling it's growth. You guys want to win people? Try loving and accepting them without ANY conditions at all!

    One more thing, I'm sure most of you have been all “lovey dovey” with either a boyfriend or girlfriend at some point in your lifetime. Well, did you live to tell about it? Ok, that's all secular music is. Telling about your love experiences (good or bad) with a tune. My dears, at this point, I'd rather sit down to an Eminem song than suffer through what I've read over the past 10 minutes.


    I apologize to the innocent souls who've endured my ranting.


    Sorely Disgusted. God Bless.

     

  • At 7:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Wow! Devil-vision has some very interesting things to say. Sad to say most of what he said is true. If people would look at the fundamentals that the UPC was founded on, you would have to conclude that one of the distinguishing doctrinal beliefs that has separated us from the "denominal world" is our stance on TV. I am a UPC minister and sadly have seen the steady decline of the clear lines of demarkation. While singing a love ballad to the person you truly love (wedding) is not an evil thing, the fact that we can't distinguish between appropriate and inappropriate is troubling to me. There is a time and season appointed for everything. The point being missed in this whole discussion is the fact that whether on TV or just in a home church, outward showmanship was never the way Jesus did things. I think it's great that God gave her talent, but use it to glorify God not promote yourself. Lastly, to just address some issues regarding "secular music", there is a vast difference in expressing your love to someone you truly love and listening and being influenced by such artist as eminem who have no fear or respect of God. The very essence of their existence is attained by the hatred spewed from an evil heart. That is not healthy for someone who is aspiring to be Christ-like, to be like the one who when reviled and persecuted never opened his mouth. Peace!

     

  • At 6:51 PM, Blogger Neil S. said…

    Oh leave the girl alone. I was a member of the Pentecostal faith until I realized that no matter how much you believe or how hard you try, "You're going to hell". After many years of contemplating it I have finally understood Christ's message of, "Love your neighbor as you love yourself". You see, it's easy to belive and do have faith, but actually treating people with love, dignity, respect and humility is almost impossible. So go ahead and judge this girl and violate Christ's "Greatest Commandment".

     

  • At 1:28 PM, Blogger Dennis said…

    My family is a member of the Johnson church and I think some of you guys need to get your story straight about this. Kaitlin was there simply to minister. If you have any idea of who her father is and the environment that this girl was raised in, then you would know that her intentions were anything but selfish. Many people do not have any idea as to why she didn't go farther in the show. The producers of the show wanted her to change the way she dressed and also wanted her to wear make-up, but she refused. She stuck to her beliefs and that cost her the opportunity to see how far she could have gone. That isn't someone who is trying to be an American Idol, that is a true Pentecostal.

     

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